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#1 NickWest

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Posted 07 January 2004 - 11:28 PM

I'm looking to get into reloading for my .223. I would like to try shooting some heavier bullets for my 1:9 and 1:8 twist barrels (want better long range accuracy). What's the heaviest varmint bullet that's currently on the market? The heaviest V-max that I can find is 55gr, I was hoping to find a varmint bullet that was at least 65gr or so.

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Posted 08 January 2004 - 04:02 AM

I've been buying 60 grain v-max's for a long time, hope they didn't quit making them. Berger also makes a 60 varmint bullet, kind of pricey though.

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Posted 08 January 2004 - 04:56 AM

berger makes a 64 gr mef(maximum expansion factor) and James calhoon makes a 62 gr silver slick coated hollow point both would be great canidites for the 223 but you would only need a 1-12 twinst for either if you go 65 gr then you need to go 1-9 and a 1-8 would stabalize a 80 gr vld

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Posted 08 January 2004 - 10:42 AM

How about the 75 gr Hornady A-MAX? Is that bullet suitable for varminting?

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Posted 08 January 2004 - 01:03 PM

Of all the match bullets Nick, the A-MAX is possibly the only one that could be used. Apparently the 1st 1/3 of the bullet fragments, but there is some concern about the remaining shank ricocheting. I know the box says 1in9 twist bbls, but in a .223 you must have at least a 24'' and prefferably a 26'' bbl and a reasonably hot load to generate the spin needed to stabilize the long vld A-MAX. I know that my 20'' bbl will not , even though its a 9twist. :lol:

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Posted 08 January 2004 - 01:16 PM

Hrm, I don't want to risk a riccochet, but I would really like to have a heavy enough bullet with a good ballistic coef in .223.

Anyone have any personal favorites?

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Posted 08 January 2004 - 03:23 PM

Ive shot the 64 grain bergers in my 22-250 ackley imp and I shot esy to 750 yds all the time

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Posted 08 January 2004 - 06:59 PM

RDMSTD ever hear the expression...apples to oranges? Nuf said on that score. Nick you may want to try the 55gr Nosler Ballistic Tip. Its not a heavy weight but its a nice bullet for varmints out to the effective range of your .223. I just loaded 200 of then tonight with 27grs of BLC-2 and a CCI BR-4 primer in Fed cases. Accurate and hard hitting combo out to 300+ yds :D

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Posted 08 January 2004 - 08:51 PM

Thanks again for the input guys. I currently shoot some black hills 55gr vmax and it does really well out to 200 yards, probably further, I just haven't shot that far yet.

But the groups start to get big at 200 and they're usually pretty tight at 100 so I'm thinking I'll try some of the 60gr vmax and some of the 64gr berger MEF stuff. I'm hoping to be able to shoot out to around 400 in my AR. (fingers crossed)

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Posted 08 January 2004 - 09:31 PM

Gee I thought 55 grains was heavy enough for a punny .223, any biger and I think I would prfer to go for 22/250 ballistics. :D

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Posted 09 January 2004 - 12:36 AM

Yes, but they don't chamber AR-15s in 22-250 or I probably would. I would prefer 6mm of all in an AR.

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Posted 09 January 2004 - 03:24 AM

The AR10 is chambered in .308 is also chambered in .243, it was deemed a logical marketing ploy, dont know how popular it is though. :D

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Posted 09 January 2004 - 07:22 AM

My Savage .223 w/ 1-9 and my AR .223 w/ 1-8 twist both shoot the 60 gr v-max's very well, in fact it's the same load only seated deeper in the AR. A friend shoots the really heavy vld's out of his AR in match competition. Both shoot the 55 v-max's acceptably well but not as good as the 60's. I have hit a few pd's out at 400 with my Savage however that's a stretch in real life conditions. Wind, elevation, etc., don't know if the gas gun with a shorter barrel (mine has a 20") would reach out that far for decent and repeatable kills on tiny prairie dogs.

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Posted 09 January 2004 - 11:34 AM

I've shot a lot of 69gr Mkings out of my 20''Colt gas gun with great results, so the weight/length is ok just not a hunting bullet :lol:

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Posted 09 January 2004 - 06:38 PM

well its the same thing the heavier bullet in a 223 or a 22-250 ai will shoot farther than alight bullet in either one. I guess I should have specified that earlier. I had a ASA super bull with a nine twist and I shot the calhoon 62 grainers and I used to shoot out to 500 yds with that weapon if you dont think so try it ya the 22-250 is more powerful than the 223 but it just takes an extra what .50 second to get there Im actally goin to the range to try some 60 sierra gr hp tomrrow in my 223 Ive got loads for 40s 50s and now I want to try some 60s