I knew where you were coming from Mike. The hoarding wouldn't be so bad if it was a few boxes here & there. But just walking in & clearing a shelf just to do it is what will get things messed up for you guys.
I'm with Red on the 17WSM. I wouldn't mind owning one but I'm not big on the Savage. I would like a CZ. Or maybe a lever carbine!! I just don't want to drop that much coin.
I still would rather have a 17H so I could load up & down considering the noise level of the 17WSM.