Has the 327 been discontinued?

Ruger apparently still chambers revolvers for it but I'm not seeing brass or ammo.

I haven't kept up with it, but as far as I know, it's not taken off as well as expected or hawked by the gun press. I never saw the need for it, and still can't decide what it's supposed to do better than the other more-established offerings, THAT PEOPLE ACTUALLY BUY, but hey, I thought the 10mm would be a more popular offering than it is.

I'm one of those cranky old coots, if I want something "as good as a .357, I'll flippin' BUY A .357 " This ain't .20 v. 224", and the ballistic coefficient doesn't matter even a little bit, and I'm old-fashioned enough to believe that size DOES matter when it comes to bullet holes and self defense purposes. I never saw this one going anywhere, and still don't. Americans have proven, over and over and over again, that .32s ain't where their interests lie.

That's a reasonable arguement that a lot of people apparently share. Not to degrade the 38spl or 357 Magnum, The only logical "improvement" if you will, is that with the .327 you could have a 6 round revolver in the same weight and size as a 5 round 38/357 and possibly less recoil. Or possibly a smaller/lighter revolver compared to the smallest 38/357's currently available. I looked at it as more of a hyped up improved 32 H&R, instead of a .327 vs .357 thing. It would take an earth shattering event of global proportion to de-throne the .357 Magnum from it's lofty perch.

Anywho, I might be interested in it if it had taken off. It seems to be a dead cartridge. Yet Ruger still offers one with no ammo, brass, or dies to support it? That's kinda nuts.

BTW, I agree with you on the 10mm.

The idea was .357 Mag performance and six rounds in a snubnose revolver, all with less recoil.

I don't know about brass and ammo availability. Might be that it's still fairly new and production hasn't caught up with demand, same as the .17 Fireball when it came out.

Brian Pearce had a .327 Federal reloading project published in the February, 2009, Handloader (#258). 12 bullets, cast and jacketed, 16 powders, and 3 factory loads. He used a Ruger SP101. According to the article, Freedom Arms is offering the Model 97 .32 H&R Magnum with an extra .327 Federal cylinder, Taurus is offering a "concealment revolver," and Charter Arms is also offering revolvers.

I found this link to the Taurus revolver:
http://www.taurususa.com/products/product-...tegory=Revolver

The cartridge is listed as ".32 MAG" and I assume it is the .327 Federal since there is a separate category for the .32 H&R Mag which they no longer carry.

I checked the Freedom Arms site, http://www.freedomarms.com/, but I didn't see the extra cylinder.

Charter arms lists three revolvers called the "327 Patriots."
http://www.charterfirearms.com/products/Ch...s_products.html


If you want more firepower, my Taurus titanium .357 Mag holds 7 rounds. 19 or 20 oz., ported 2-inch barrel, easy on the hands.

I have yet to se one on a shelf but that doesn't mean it's a bad idea... just not trendy (or traditional) enough. I like .32 for paper punching. I have my eye on a K-framed 32 S&W Long that will be coming up for sale soon. Years ago when I was very young I read an article where one of the pistoleros of that time (Bill Jordan or the like) had one for pure-Dee-accuracy shooting and found it to outshoot his .38 K-Frames and Colts. Having a Colt Shooting Master in .38 Special I have a hard time coming to grips with that statement but I'm willing to give it a run! As far as defense loads, I'll take the .38 S&W Chief Special and target wadcutters... or 200 grain RN of I'm feeling really ornery!~AMMOe

Terry Murbach, who used to write for Petersen's Handguns Magazine, is a friend of mine, and he's a .32 fan. He has a Single Six in .32 H&R, and a neat little .32/32 smith he had made up for himself, he had a 4" J frame .32 and had some Kit Gun sights milled into it, it looked factory issue. Very well done. He handed me a couple of boxes of ammo and told me to "have at it" with them. They were, and are, a lot of fun to play with, and I could see where they might make a good woodsloafing gun, but they sure don't interest me in the least when it comes to self-defense. They'd be better than a .22, but not much....................... He's since picked up a very late S&W M16-? that was a limited run of K-32s in .32 H&R, but I haven't shot that one, and the Taurus equivalent, haven't shot that one, either... and he's had Clements, and some other pistolsmiths, build him some custom jobs.

But the smallest thing I'll tolerate is a .38 Special, and only because the little one I have shoots like a target pistol with the right ammo. I'm an AMERICAN , and that's how it is! I'll leave the .32s to the Eurotrash............

A gunsmith I worked with in Albuquerque year back used to reline / sleeve Model 14 S&Ws to 32 S&W Long. Not only was it a fun bit of work to watch being done but the finished product was very accurate; hence my yearn for the K-32. I was in a pawn shop last week and the guy had an unopened box of 1000 pcs of 32 H&R Magnum UPB for $90. I keep thinking about that. I already have about that many 32 S&W Long cases... with no gun! ~AMMOe

Bigger is better. Just that I can't carry a .38 inconspicuously in my pants pocket. My new defense gun is a .22LR

A year ago I nearly bought a .32H&R single six, ended up getting the 22/22M simply because shot shells are not available for the .32H&R It's my carry gun when shooting PD's and those 22Magnum shot loads are handy for snakes.

Starline still makes .32 H&R Mag cases, too.............................. You can still get 'em if you want 'em.

I noticed a couple .327's in the case at the gun shop today. One Charter Arms, one Taurus. They seemed to be priced about $60-$80 higher than comparable 5 shot 38spl's. They also had ammo, $28 per 20 rounds + tax. Other than rimfire ammo or shotgun shells, I haven't bought any off the shelf ammo in a long time so I might be out of touch, but $1.50 per round seemed really high.

Yeah, it's a lot of money even considering you can reload the brass. You can go through 20 rounds of pistol ammo in a couple minutes of shooting. Then what? It's not even enough to develop a good handload unless you can shoot in your backyard.

Probably better to wait until bulk brass is available unless you can get a good deal on the pistol. Personally, I would buy the Taurus because I like mine so much. I've never handled or fired a Charter Arms pistol.

Brian Pearce used RCBS dies for the .32 S&W Long/.32 H&R Mag for his reloading project and they worked fine.

I hope it's around for a little while. I know it's not much different than a good 357 but I like different and enjoy trying new things. I have a Ruger Bisley Single Six in 32 H&R Mag. That gun is scarry accurate for a revolver. I hope the 327 is also. I hope Ruger see's fit to chamber it in a Blackhawk Hunter model. I would love a Freedom arms, but that's going to 3-4 times the price of the Ruger.

Dan Wesson was fooling around with a 32 caliber Super Mag. They actually had the brass made for it, the trim lenght is the same as the other Super Mags at 1.610" If a prototype gun was made it has never surfaced. I'll bet it would have been a real screamer. Here is a picture of the Super Mags.

Yeah I'm still unsure if this cartridge is on it's way in, or on it's way out?

No hurry to buy on my end.

Tigger, wouldn't a .30 Carbine Blackhawk achieve the same ends? It's still around, and brass is economical and available...................

I have no idea what the 320 SM would have been or could have been. The gun could take a serious amount of pressure if the brass could have. I will assume it had .312" bullets and that's what I stuffed in the top of the empty brass I got for my collection. But maybe they designed it for .308" and that would open up a little more variety in bullets.

I have a Blackhawk in 30 carbine, it's stil in the safe. I have a box of 32-20 brass that will cycle in the revolver and plan to try it sometime in the near future. I have heard some decent velocitys from others that have a 30 carbine revolver. They also warn that it's awful loud.

You're going to fire 32-20 in a 30 Carbine??

My Brother-in-law had a Blackhawk 30 carbine. He didn't like it as it was pesky to reload for and didn't get much done when you did. And yes, it was very loud!~AMMOe

Just use the cases. I plan on using .308" bullets. The 32-20 brass will allow a good crimp and not have to worry about indexing/headspace off the case mouth. I have tried the empty cases and the gun will function with the rim just fine. I have heard of other doing it. I did read somewhere the first 30 carbines will not work with 32-20 brass, but the newer ones will. Mine is of new manufactuer. I'll let you know how it turns out when I get to the project.

I also see where Forster makes a hollow pointer, that might be good for the round nose bullets that the 30 carbine is typically loaded with.

Forster Hollow pointer


I have too many projects and not enough time.

Tigger,
Is that hollow pointer universal or caliber specific? I didn't see where the link said anything about that.

It's a universal tool. They also offer one in 1/16". It's made to fit the Forster trimmer. Here is the link to it;

Forster trimmer

I don't have a Forster trimmer but I think I could adapt it to my Lyman or maybe a drill press application.