I was out deer hunting this morning and my mom saw what looked like a coyote from about 5 yds out in the back yard from the porch. The time that she saw was about 8:45 am. Does anyone think that this is kinda unusual for a coyote to do this in broad daylight hours? I have used Randy Andersons hotdog predator call and have never seen or heard nothing at night when I tried to locate them. Any tips to bring this thing in and give him some #1 (3") magnum buckshot?

I'm no expert like a lot of the guys here, but I do know that I see coyotes within 15 yards of my front door kinda regularly. I've seen them at right around the same time you mentioned, and in the middle of the afternoon as well. I live in a highly populated suburb, and these guys have no fear of humans, in fact our garbage, pets, and overwhelming deer population is like heaven for them. Unfortunately, I have twin 3 year old kids who like to play outside. So I have to find a way to bring these yotes down without my shotgun, or any other LOUD gun. I've spoken with my local conservation dept officers and they are all simpathetic to my problem. They've all given me advice that I can't even mention here.

Hi R-Man...nothing unusal for that time of morning or for any time with coyotes. They are more active early morning and late afternoon..but are out and about most any time of day or night. And riznitch, I would get rid of them from your yard. Your neighbors would also appreciate it...from that range you speak of a .22 with a well placed shot will do the trick and it would not be too noisy...but the heck with the noise I remember this summer a man had to wressle his 3 year old grandson from a coyote in Arizona. I heard, but am not sure if this is true or not...but I heard that in Maryland (I think) this summer an amber alert was called and then called off a couple hours later when the partially eaten remains were found of a young toddler that was apparently snatched from their backyard. I know for fact the Arizona incident happened as I watched it on the nightly news. I would take them out the very first opportunity that presents itself. If there are numerous coyotes, I would have a meeting with immediate neighbors and come up with a game plan to be effective against the yotes and at the same time safe guard all people concerned and their pets. Good luck and keep us posted.

I see them near my house at times. At the moment I think I have them thinned out. At least I haven't been hearing them and haven't seen any sign lately. But that only lasts for a few months at best.

Don't call from near the house. Get out as far from the house as you can...100-200-300 yards, whatever is possible. Even though you spot them near the house, they'll be more likely to come to the call if they feel less nervous about it. Simply because it seems to be comfortable passing close to homes, doesn't mean it'll still be in the neighborhood or will necessarily come the first time you decide to make a set. Even urban coyotes cover a lot of ground or he/she may simply not be interested on a given day. Be persistant but not overly so. Make a 30 minute set, if it doesn't show, wait a week or two and try it again. Eventually you'll have it in your sights. Good luck.

on a related topic, can anyone roughly calculate a starting load for me using their handy dandy ballistics software. My goal is to fire .38 special from a 18 inch rifle barrel at 1000-1100fps . I have an nef handi-rifle with a .357mag barrel that I want to shorten. I believe that the twist rate is 1 in 18. Is this do-able, or am I going to have a tumbling bullet at that slow speed? I really appreciate any input I can get. I do intend to take matters into my own hands. I've read many many horror stories about hungry yotes. There was even one incident where a coyote found it's way inside a home and was found standing over a sleeping baby when a nanny found him and starting throwing stuff at him. As if there weren't enough things I gotta worry about with my kids.

If you fire .38 Special cartridges in a .357 Magnum chamber, a carbon ring will be left in the chamber at the location of the .38 Special case mouth.

If you later fire .357 Magnum cartridges in that chamber, the brass expands around the carbon ring and makes for very difficult extraction. This may not be a problem if the chamber diameter is large enough that the brass springs back after firing, but there's no way to know unless you try it. Removing the ring takes a lot of scrubbing. Ask me how I know.

(COUGH revolver COUGH)

You might try .357 Magnum cases, cast bullets, and a powder like Trail Boss that fills the case and produces low velocity. That way, you don't have to worry about varying powder position causing inconsistent velocities.

5-15 yards sound like an archery situation? Quiet and effective.

This situation has "crossbow" written all over it. Or, if you're willing to spend about a grand and your local laws re. supressed firearms will allow, a 10/22 Mag. from johnsguns.com. would be handy.

A crossbow would be great, i just have to find one that's good yet very affordable. I've considred The .22 mag or .17hmr would be great too, but even suppressed, they might be too loud due to their velocity. I would be shooting down an them into a small valley. Sounds travel very well and echo like no other. I'm not too worried about the legality since there's no way I'd ever be able to legally take care of this situation. Heck, I'd be arrested for using a crossbow too. I wish I could just open up my front door and blast 00 buck at them like remingtonman. By the way have you gotten yours yet Rman? I haven't seen any this year yet, but I expect to see them soon.

Anyone have a crossbow or recurve bow they want to get rid of CHEAP?

The only thing that I have killed predator wise this year was a fox. Killed him at 2am in the morning with a 22 mag using cci hollow points. I shot at him using the 30-06 the night before only to find out that I had missed. Its pretty difficult waking up from a deep sleep and shooting that powerful of a rifle. And man does that leave an echo late at night . The coyotes seem to be going around where I call. I dont know what the deal is. I was out deer hunting a couple of weeks ago and after I shot a small doe, my brother and friend where walking back to the truck to pick me up when they jumped up a large coywolf or something of that nature. They said it was all redish in color like a fox, pointy ears, and about the size a large dog. I think my 22-250 should put him down in his tracks, however only when I go coyote calling I never ever see anything. I can use pretty much any kind of rifle to shoot coyotes around here because I live out in the country. Has any one else out there had any luck calling in coyotes this year?

Regarding that red-haired coyote/coywolf/coydog or ? your buddies saw, Rem.Man: that sounds like the critter I took a shot at last week. He was fairly large, with a bushy red and white face, the nose was almost fox-like and even more pointed than a coyote's. Thought at the time it may have been sick as it didn't seem too wary, but now I wonder if it was used to humans or had a lot of domestic dog genes. I didn't crawl far enough out of the bushes and shot through some branches and missed him. Thought it may have been a red wolf if it wasn't for the snout. Never heard of a red wolf this far north (central Ohio) and they're endangered; would be in trouble if it was a "purebred" and I'd killed it.

Good luck.

Death wind 11 what kind of rifle do you use for coyote hunting? I like my 22-250 it shoots flat and hits hard. Killed 4 coons with mine and blew em apart.

I use a .22-250 (Rem. SPS Varmint, 20X Super Sniper scope.) Also a Rem. LVSF in .204, although it has its limits.

Higuys- just a note on the wly one from e. Colorado. Gotta tell ya, we have taught the coyotes how to live w/us. We live in the rural area 5 mi. from town ,and the sunsets w howls in all quadrants They get my guinas, chickens, cats, and cotton-tail rabbits right out of the yard. This fall after deer hunting success, we put the carcus 125 yds so. of the house @ the tree dump and took 2 out of three off it. Last full moon @ 2:10 in the morning woke up to here one howl just out-side the yard, kept it up long enough for me to slip out onto the deck and take him out with the 12 ga, @ 65yds. Last night we got 4" of snow and the coyote came to our garage door and under the deck; no doubt tryin for a cat or rabbit. I've had a scat pile w/in 6' of the dog pens. Yeh, they live with us on a nightly basis, and the dogs can only bark a fit about it. Love to read the forum guys, keep it up !! J>C>

Man GDC I wish I was having the luck you are having with the coyotes! You need to take me hunting at your place. LOL. What kind of rifle and caliber do you use for those coyotes?

Here's a backyard dog that was still breathing a 1/2 hour ago. 22Hornet, 45 yards, dropped on the spot.

Good one Mike! Fur looks really nice on that one, too bad they are worth less around here than the dirt in the pic though lol.

Good shootin!

looks like fun no doubt a coyote but could he be a cross with a domestic?

Good job with that coyote red. Is that your coyote gun? Do u see or hear many coyotes up there where u live. Whenever I go out deer hunting or coyote calling I can never manage to see or even hear a coyote respond to my calls.

doghog, nope after inspecting it in the daylight, it appears to be full blooded coyote.

Remington Man,
We have a population of coyotes and at times I'll hear them howl at night. Sometimes a police siren will get them wound up. If they are howling back at you when calling, that's generally not a good thing. It usually means they are on to you. Our area is less than optimal for calling. I average about a dozen on the ground each year, so far this year has been a worse than average. Most trips result in none seen, but it's exciteing when one does show up. I knew this particular coyote was in the area and had been feeding on a deer carcass. I had a very good hiding spot and decided I would just stay there as long as I could stand it as it is almost literally in my backyard and I want them gone. I called with a few pup whimpers for just a minute and called no more for a full 30 minutes and then repeated. It took 1.5 hours (3 short call sequences) for her to finally make herself visible but when she did, it was obvious that she was looking for the other coyote. These coyotes around here are wary and patient. Many times they are interested in the sound of the call but are reluctant to leave the safety of heavy cover to investigate.

The Hornet is not my "go to" coyote rifle but so far (knocks wood) it's been 100% deadly on coyotes with no run offs and no misses. Each shot has been 100 yards or less.

Jerry, yeah the fur is OK, not great. I may skin her?

Nice topic. I am about to jump back into yote hunting and I have always found a bow to be effective in the past. I have taken four this year by chance with one. I have special broadheads for them that I carry and my calls in case I see one.
I do have a consideration for the area though. Make sure you get a pass through with every shot. You don't want that one griping neighbor to call the law on you because a yote died in her bushes and it has your arrow in it. If the arrow passes through you can just let it go or retrieve it as per your preference, but with your arrow half through you'd better be ready to track it. Most bows will put an arrow right through, but if you stick the shoulder blade with a light bow/ arrow combo your life could suck.
Just a thought. I plan to start killin allot more here and have a new rifle just for them (AR-15).

gdcpony, What is the draw weight of the bow that you used? FOUR that's awesome! And at what ranges were you when you got your pass throughs. I went to the local Cabela's and picked up a 45lb recurve and I felt that that was about my limit (not as strong as I thought I was). I live on a 1 acre lot along with all of my neighbors, so a bleeding, yelping, dying coyote with an arrow in it's side will definitely get noticed. I know that a compound bow would be easier, but cost is an issue, and I just love the way recurves look.

I use the same bow for deer 62# Darton Maverick. If the 'yote is in range, I will get a pass. My best was about four years ago I got one at 56yds. It wouldn't come in any further. This year the farthest was about 25yds. Your recurve at 25yds or less is an easy pass.
Use "cut on contact" (COC) broadheads and you'll do fine. I use mechanicals for 'yotes and g-hogs but I have the power to get them through. They kill fast with big holes, but your bow could leave it half through and give a graphic display to Susie the neighborhood gossip.
I use COC heads on deer. I like the Magnus line for deer ('yotes for your combo) and they are lifetime warrantied send 'em back and get new. I have to track a bit more (for deer) but they kill.
Just make sure you know where your arrow is hitting at range. Practice points and hunting points are completely different. Especially with fingers and off a recurve.

I hope to have better luck later as I just got done loading some test loads for the new AR. Bows are nice and quiet, but round here population control is the goal right now.

Nice coyote Mike, I see your back laying your rifle on them.

well, it seemed softer and less likely to scratch than the sandy, rocky spot where it flopped

btw, it did have a bit of mange just beginning around the neck. No skinnin that one.